give bin laden's bert certificate he convinced that they were going to buy bin laden for us from the taliban. we shouldn't get mired one in one issue, but usama bin laden lived from 1998-2011 largely because we refused as a government to try to kill him when we had the opportunity. >> alisyn: so it was your impression that john brennan was more concerned about somehow angering the saudis than actually finding usama bin laden? >> without a doubt, ma'am, without a doubt. the operation he's talking about, he's judging it not good enough. we took that operation to the special forces command in fort bragg, north carolina. they went over it minutely and said with the material we had to work with they could not do a better job than we had done in putting that together. >> alisyn: given your experience in the cia with john brennan. what do you think of him becoming the head of the cia. i think the bigger picture is more important, he's been deliberately deceitful in describing to the american people the kind of threat we're facing from the islamic world. he has said the term jihad should never be us